The Popcorn Isn't Real · Ep. 91 (The Mandalorian & Grogu (2026))
They Did It Again: This Is Boba Fett's Movie
The Mandalorian & Grogu is not a Mandalorian story. It is the cancelled Book of Boba Fett Season 2, with the serial numbers filed off and a New Republic badge taped over Boba's name.
The case, in one place
Watch The Mandalorian & Grogu and try to tell me it has anything to do with the Mandalorian. The plot is a Hutt succession war over Jabba's scattered empire. Rescue Jabba's son and rightful heir, Rotta, and decide the future of the Hutt Syndicate. That is dead center in Boba Fett's world. It is not within a thousand parsecs of Din Djarin's.
This is the second time Disney has taken a story built for Boba Fett and handed it to the Mandalorian. We already spent a whole episode proving the Mandalorian is just Boba wearing silver armor, the carbon-freezing, the IG kill, the desert-bar comic, they took all of it straight from Boba Fett. And now, they've taken his movie. That's twice they have given Boba's life to Mando.
Here is what we think happened. They had a Book of Boba Fett Season 2 written and ready, built to grab every thread Season 1 left dangling and tie it up with a bow. The war with the Twins, the future of Jabba's empire, the heir. When they killed the show, they could not bear to waste the season 2 script. So they ripped the wiring out of The Book of Boba Fett and soldered it into Mando.
Six nails hold the case down. The Twins were built as Boba's rivals. The plot is the succession of Jabba's empire. The 'restore the heir' plotline cleanly fixes everything that was broken about Boba's Season 1. The gladiator pit fight is lifted straight from a canon Boba comic. The rival hunter is Cad Bane: the rerun. And the New Republic framing is the visible seam, the duct tape holding the beskar together. Connect these dots and they spell one name, and it is not Din Djarin.
They gave Boba's story to Mando in 2019, and they did it again on the big screen. The Book of Boba Fett Season 2 did not get thrown in the trash. It got laundered into a Mandalorian movie, with the one character it was actually about left sitting on a throne we'll never get to see again.
The evidence
Book of Boba Fett Flopped, Its Best Parts Were Mando's
The data made executives believe a lie: people want Mando, not Boba.
Step one of the motive: the numbers told them to drop Boba
The Book of Boba Fett sat in the mid-60s on Rotten Tomatoes and was, for a stretch, the lowest-rated live-action Star Wars show on the platform. And even more interesting, the strongest episodes were the two that abandoned Boba to go tell Mando's story. A Disney executive sees this, and thinks exactly one thing: The audience wants Mando, not Boba. So you stop greenlighting Boba projects. But you do not throw away the plots you already wrote. You simply recast them with Mando.
Then Mando's Own Show Got Boring
Season 3 was his lowest-rated season, and not by a little.
they needed an injection of 'classic Mando'
Mando Season 3 fell to roughly 84 percent with critics, a series low, and the audience score cratered into the 50s, with complaints about aimless side-quests and a show that had drifted away from bounty hunting into Bo-Katan politics. The franchise needed something that felt like classic Mando again. Some seedy underworld, monster-of-the-week bounty hunting. Which is to say, it needed something that felt like classic Boba Fett. And a whole season of Boba Fett was already sitting in a drawer.
A Whole season of Boba, gathering dust in a Drawer
Never greenlit, never cancelled. Just an unresolved plot.
Step three: the raw material was right there
The Book of Boba Fett Season 2 was never greenlit and never officially cancelled. Just silence. But Season 1 spent its whole run seeding a Season 2: the escalation with the Hutt Twins and the fate of Jabba's scattered empire.
The Twins literally showed up, threatened Boba, sent a Wookiee to kill him, then announced they were leaving Tatooine, for now. That is the most obvious 'to be continued' in Star Wars. Story ideas do not evaporate at a studio. A homeless, half-built season is precisely the raw material a studio raids when a movie suddenly needs a plot on a deadline.
Favreau: The Film 'Forced Me to Create a New Story'
The Thrawn plot was thrown out. A new one was bolted on, fast.
Step four: by their own account, they scrapped the plot and grabbed another
Favreau and Filoni had already written a Mandalorian Season 4 centered on Grand Admiral Thrawn, designed to set up Ahsoka Season 2. When the show was converted to a film, Favreau told SFX Magazine that those scripts could not simply be adapted, they had too many characters and assumed you had seen everything on Disney+. Going from a season to a film, in his own words, 'forced him to create a new story.'
We are just asking where that new story came from. The Thrawn plot is out. A brand-new plot was bolted on under deadline, and it just so happens to be a Hutt-empire succession war. Where had a Hutt-empire succession war recently been left unfinished? Exactly.
The Third Name on the Poster Wrote Every Episode of Boba Fett
Noah Kloor. Not a Mando writer. The Book of Boba Fett's staff writer.
The smoking gun is in the credits
Look at who got top billing on the screenplay: Jon Favreau, Dave Filoni, and a third name, Noah Kloor. Who is Noah Kloor? Maybe you expect him to be a Mandalorian writer? Nope. He wrote exactly one episode of Mandalorian Season 3, a poorly received one that barely featured Mando.
But look again, it turns out he was staff writer on The Book of Boba Fett, with writing credit on every single episode. They handed the Mandalorian's movie to the man who wrote Boba Fett's show. If this were really a Mandalorian story, why is the Boba Fett writer getting top billing?
The Twins Are Boba's Villains. Period.
Din Djarin has zero history with them. They came for Jabba's (now Fett's) throne.
The film's main villains were built to fight Boba, not Mando
The Hutt Twins debuted in The Book of Boba Fett, traveling to Mos Espa to claim Jabba's territory from Boba, sending Wookie assassin Black Krrsantan to assassinate him, then withdrawing from Tatooine with the grudge unresolved. The textbook 'we will be back' villain exit. In the movie they are the primary antagonists. But their opponent is suddenly Mando, a man who has never met them. Their entire dramatic purpose, a blood grudge over Jabba's empire, only pays off if pitted against the man who actually took Jabba's throne. That man is Boba.
The Whole Movie Is About Jabba's Empire
Grogu, Ahsoka, Mandalore? None of them are here. Just Hutts, thrones, and succession.
Strip out the plot and the elements are 100% Boba
Forget plot for a second. In Disney's Star Wars, what makes a story Boba Fett? Jabba, Hutts, crime syndicates, successions, and deciding who runs the underworld. What makes a story Mandalorian? Grogu, Ahsoka, Luke, the Darksaber, Mandalore, Bo-Katan. Now count what this movie contains. Of the Mandalorian elements: just Grogu (barely.) Of the Boba elements: all of them.
The entire point of this film is rescuing Rotta and deciding the fate of the Hutt Syndicate. Boba served Jabba, died on Jabba's sail barge, rose from the dead to sit on Jabba's throne, and spent a whole series consolidating Jabba's holdings. This movie is Boba's world. Mando is a tourist in it.
Boba Never Wanted to BE a Crime Lord. He Wanted to Restore One.
This is the keystone: it fixes everything broken about Boba's Season 1.
The 'restore the heir' engine answers the questions that broke Boba's show
The single biggest complaint about The Book of Boba Fett was simple. Why is Boba Fett, who says outright 'I am not a bounty hunter,' trying to become a crime lord he clearly does not want to be?
This movie answers it. Boba was never trying to own the syndicate. He is a bounty hunter who thrives in a stable balance of power, a galaxy with a powerful patron who trusts him, grants him autonomy, and pays a premium. Jabba's death threw all of that out of whack. So Boba kills Bib, seizes the throne, and consolidates Jabba's leaderless holdings before the Pykes or the Twins can carve them up, not out of ambition, but to hold the empire in trust.
The final step was always to find Jabba's son and restore him to power, buying himself a permanent seat as the trusted hunter of the brand new mob boss. Watch the movie and you are watching the back half of that exact plan, with Mando's face glued on.
Jabba's Heir Is Voiced by a Line Cook
Jeremy Allen White from 'The Bear,' got the role through a chef connection.
The Bear, behind the Hutt throne
Rotta the Hutt is voiced by Jeremy Allen White, the star of The Bear. Per The Hollywood Reporter, he landed the role partly through a cooking connection with Jon Favreau, who is himself a serious food guy. So the heir to Jabba's criminal empire is played by television's most famous line cook.
The Gladiator Pit Is Ripped From a Canon Boba Comic
Disguised, forced into a death-pit, fighting for freedom. That already happened. To Boba.
it is a near-direct adaptation
In War of the Bounty Hunters: Alpha, the 2021 Marvel comic, Boba is forced to fight in a gladiatorial death-pit on Nar Shaddaa. To hide his identity he sprays his armor black, takes his father's name 'Jango,' gets billed as the 'Beskar Brawler,' and wins fight after fight until coming up against a monstrous, spider-like pit warrior. In the movie, Mando is thrown into Janu's arena announced as 'a rare Mandalorian specimen,' forced to fight for his freedom, and survives a final death-match. A Mandalorian-armored bounty hunter, forced into a gladiator pit, fighting round after round of monsters to win his freedom, is a beat that already happened to Boba, in canon, two years before this movie. The film did not invent this scene. It re-heated it like yesterday's leftovers.
The Arena Floor Is the 1977 Holochess Board
Every monster is a Dejarik piece, and the big one does its signature move.
The best Easter egg in the movie is 50 years old
Look at the arena floor in the gladiator scene: it is tiled exactly like the holochess board, Dejarik, from the very first Star Wars in 1977. And the creatures released to kill Mando and Rotta are the holochess pieces, making their first appearances as real beasts.
The hulking one, the Mantellian Savrip, even performs its signature move from A New Hope's holochess game! It walks over to a smaller monster, picks it up, and slowly sets it back down, killing it instantly. For decades fans thought that was just clumsy stop-motion. Turns out, it's just how the creature kills! A 50-year-old Star Wars deep cut, perfectly executed.
The New Republic Wrapper Is the Visible Seam
Pull this thread and the whole 'why is Mando even here' problem unravels.
This is the duct tape holding two worlds together
The setup: Mando works for the New Republic chasing neo-imperial warlords, and to get intel on the next imperial he takes a job, brokered with the Hutt Twins, to 'rescue' Jabba's son Rotta... From the imperial warlord whose whereabouts will be his payment... Hold on, does that make any sense at all?
Why is the fledgling New Republic, born from a war against tyranny, cutting deals with literal crime lords and running errands that decide who runs the galaxy's mafia? They take the word of slug gangsters and dispatch an agent to fetch a Hutt heir, a job that turns out to be making them complicit to murder. Either they blindly believed the criminal cartel and nearly became accessory to an assassination, or they knew and did it anyway. Pick your poison.
Every one of these holes vanishes the instant you put Boba in the pilot's seat. A fresh Daimyo taking Jabba's throne for himself and already wrapped up in the Twins' infighting has every reason to be here. The New Republic does not. This is not plot. It is a desperate contrivance to feebly connect Mando to Boba's world, in the hopes that fans don't notice the blatant swap.
"I Don't Deal With Hutts"
Mando's own line, the instant he's sent to meet the Twins.
The movie tells on itself in one line
When the New Republic officer tells Mando to go deal with the Twins, his first reaction is to say, flatly, that he does not deal with Hutts. The movie has to manufacture a reason to drag him into a Hutt war, because he has no legitimate reason to be here at all.
Listen to how the plot actually sounds out loud: Mando is tracking imperial officers, and oh, that gladiator boss is the imperial officer we're looking for, but we don't know that, and now we are working for the Hutts for some reason, and tracking down Jabba's son for some reason, who was kidnapped by the imperial officer for some reason, and suddenly we're taking down the Twins for some reason! The poor stitching shows on every seam. Boba would need none of it.
You Could Delete the Father-Son Subplot and Nothing Changes
The one genuinely Mando part of the movie is a passenger, not the pilot.
Grogu lifts right out of the movie
Fatherhood is core Mando and Grogu, and this movie had an entire subplot dedicated to it, so the movie must be really truly theirs.
But wait, look at it again. The Mando-and-Grogu material in this movie is not load-bearing. Lift the entire father and son subplot out and the Hutt-succession plot proceeds completely unchanged.
Look at how it is shoehorned in. A skyscraper-sized snake-dragon, a thing that obviously kills by crushing and swallowing, is revealed to also be venomous for some reason, purely so Din can get poisoned and Grogu can have a 'save dad' moment. The cure? A deus ex machina swamp hermit who materializes out of the swamp, hands over a magic antidote, and is never seen or mentioned again. Crisis introduced, crisis resolved, crisis forgotten. And then the movie continues.
It is entirely self-contained. That is not a theme, that is a bad coat of paint. And it proves there is an old rusting chassis underneath.
These Are the Same Fingerprints as Last Time
Filoni co-wrote it, and re-skinning used plots is exactly his go-to.
We already caught him doing this before
In our previous episode we argued that when Filoni runs out of ideas, he re-skins an old fan-favorite arc instead of building a new one. We already made the case that The Book of Boba Fett is a beat-for-beat re-run of his own Darth Maul plot. Popular villain falls to his death, survives implausibly, is healed by a secretive society, becomes a crime lord, tactlessly seizes an existing syndicate, recruits a gang of colorful expendables. Now look at The Mandalorian & Grogu. Filoni is doing it again, but this time he's taking Boba Fett's own story and handing it to Mando on a silver platter.
The Rival Hunter Is 'Cad Bane: The Rerun'
Every Boba climax Filoni touches ends in a duel with a Filoni original.
When in doubt, cast a Filoni original instead of the fans want
Every Boba climax Filoni touches ends in a one-on-one with a rival hunter. The planned Cad Bane finale of The Clone Wars, then the Western showdown with Cad Bane in The Book of Boba Fett. And now this movie reruns the beat exactly, a rival bounty hunter runs the hero down and hauls him off to the Hutts. And it casts the slot with Embo, another Filoni Clone Wars creation. Either Embo is simply where a returning Cad Bane would have gone (Star Wars characters never stay dead), or he is Cad Bane with a new hat. Either way it is Filoni reaching for his own creations instead of the classic original trilogy bounty hunters that fans actually want.
Filoni Already Rescued This Exact Hutt in 2008
Rotta is 'Stinky,' the Huttlet from the Clone Wars movie. Now rescued a second time.
The same Hutt, kidnapped in two different decades
Rescuing a kidnapped Hutt heir is a well Filoni has drawn from before. The entire plot of the 2008 Clone Wars film is Anakin and Ahsoka rescuing Jabba's kidnapped son, Rotta the Huttlet, the one Ahsoka nicknamed 'Stinky.' This is the same Hutt. Rotta has now been rescued by a Jedi and a Mandalorian in two different decades, in two different Filoni-co-written stories. We're recycling recycled content. At this point, I guess getting kidnapped is just Rotta's hobby.
The Sarlacc's 'Thousand Years' Was Just a Hutt Saying 'Forever'
C-3PO translated it literally. He missed the nuance.
A throwaway line quietly fixes a 40-year-old joke
In Return of the Jedi, Jabba sentences our heroes to be slowly digested in the Sarlacc over a thousand years. Fans tied themselves in knots explaining how the Sarlacc keeps you alive that long. This movie offers a better answer, almost in passing: when a Hutt threatens Rotta with suffering for a thousand years, you realize that is just how Hutts talk. They are so long-lived that 'a thousand years' is simply their phrase for 'the rest of your life.' Jabba was not promising mystical torture. C-3PO, a famously literal protocol droid, just translated the figure of speech word for word and missed the nuance. A perfect explanation.
Episode transcript
diwanawanga wow dude i saw wanawanga wow okay i've actually got a question for you um so apparently and this is sort of news to me like i always thought diwanawanga is like hello in hatties which it is and that's the word for hello apparently achuta is like now the more common word for yeah but it's like but it sounds it sounds just like yeah i'm like wouldn't this It caused massive brawls and angry events that didn't need to happen when someone walks up to a hut and is like, hey, Achuta, and he's like, what? What did you say about me? Sorry, he would be like, what did you say about me? Wait, that's almost closer to Gungan. Today I'm wearing, since we were talking about clothes, I'm wearing my It's a Trap Admiral Ackbar shirt, which you can't really see on the video. Dude. are you like me do you pine for the days when everybody wasn't saying dank ferric this and dank ferric that yeah yeah they say it so they say it so much and that phrase correct me if i'm
wrong i i think it probably may have gotten introduced in like legends somewhere but that was never used in the original trilogy right like no no no it got popular with the mandalorian Exactly. In my knowledge of Legends, like I said, I pine for the days when they weren't saying Dank Farrick. Everybody used to say Blast. That was the Star Wars swear. They all said Blast. They said Blast this and Blast that. I think it's a way better swear. I like Blast. You know what else they do too much? They steal Boba Fett's plots and give them to the Mandalorian. That's what they do too much. Well, I mean, what else are you going to do with someone who is Boba Fett? Yeah, I know, right? Oh, my God.
This episode is going to be full of spoilers for a brand new, like, newly released movie. Go watch the movie. It's a fun movie, and you'll enjoy it. Don't listen to this episode until you've watched the movie. Okay, I'm going to say this just to start out, because, you know, if you listen to this episode, you're going to get the wrong impression. I love The Mandalorian. I do. I think he's great. I like Pedro Pascal as the Mandalorian. I think he does a good job acting. I like the other actors that are the Mandalorian, but don't get credits because they're not famous. Or do they get credit? Oh, wait a minute. But no, I do. I genuinely love the Mandalorian. I like watching him. I like his TV shows. But dude, I hate the Mandalorian. I can't stand that guy. He just stole Boba Fett's life. He stole Boba Fett's identity. He stole Boba Fett's fame. We've actually already covered this. We have talked at length about how the Mandalorian has thoroughly ripped off Boba Fett in every possible way.
How Filoni and Favreau are basically just inserting a new character and they're like, well, we want him to be famous. So let's just take everything good about this old, you know, original trilogy character and give that to our new character. If you've listened to our podcast, you probably know how we feel about it. If you haven't, go back, look up our episodes. We've got, I think one of them was called The Boba Lorian, which is where we talk about how The Mandalorian just straight up ripped off Boba Fett and took his story. And then we've got one called The Book of Boba Fett, where we talk about how The Book of Boba Fett sucked. I've got news for you. Because Filoni and Favreau are not done yet. They did it again. What? They did it again. They needed more material, and they straight up took more Boba Fett material. and just turned it into the Mandalorian material. And I'm not talking about
a TV show. I'm not talking about a season. I'm talking about a feature film. The Mandalorian got his movie before Boba Fett did. Boba Fett, a named character with lines from the original trilogy. And the Mandalorian swoops in and gets a movie before he did. And I'll tell you what, that movie is Boba Fett's movie! The Mandalorian and Grogu is clearly, clearly supposed to be either a movie follow-up to the book of boba fett season one or more likely just the book of boba fett season two but condensed into a movie it clearly is the mandalorian and grogu is not a mandalorian story at all it is the canceled book of boba fett season two because what does it have to do with the mandalorian nothing yeah and we can look at the plot of all three seasons of the mandalorian and show how different this movie is. The plot of the movie, of The Mandalorian and Grogu, it's a hot succession war over Jabba's empire.
Yeah, which you would not know from watching the trailers. Well, right, I know, exactly. They kind of hid that from everybody. But no, it's like they took the Book of Boba Fett season two and they shaved off the serial numbers and they stamped Mandalorian's name on it and that's what we got. I mean, they also like, you know, badly shoehorned some New Republic stuff in there and like a completely tacked on side plot to give, you know, Grogu something to do, which has nothing to do with the movie. Yeah, they have the and Grogu part of the movie that you could just take out of the movie. But I hear some people liked it. I don't know. It wasn't one of those people. I wasn't a huge fan of it, but I will say it wasn't bad. It just wasn't part of the movie. It lifts right out. This makes me mad and it should make you mad because this is the second time Disney has taken a story built for Boba Fett and handed it to the Mandalorian.
First the show, now the movie. They're just given everything. Everything that Boba Fett is is now Mando's. Even the stuff that Boba Fett is that people hate is Mando's. Even the crime lord stuff is now Mando's. And I'm like, what are they doing? Why are they doing this? Because the crime lord stuff went over so well in Book of Boba Fett. Yeah, seriously. We've got to do that again. People love that. But we'll give it to Mando. The problem wasn't the plot of Boba Fett. No, the problem was Boba Fett. People don't like him, dude. The problem was Boba Fett. The problem was Boba Fett. What if we had someone who looks and acts just like Boba Fett? Just like him. And we'll give him the plot. Then people will love it. But isn't him? Apparently it's kind of working. I don't think the show is a total bomb. Yeah, no, I'm like, I'm happy for the success of this movie, even though I felt like it was a waste of a movie,
and in many ways, kind of not a movie at all. yeah in many many ways here's why okay the book of boba fett season two became the mandalorian the movie the book of boba fett underperformed this is known this is canon right everyone knows that not a secret nobody liked it very vocal about being like no we're not putting boba fett in anything ever again exactly well and that's it that's exactly what they did it was a it was the Lowest performing Star Wars TV show ever in the Disney era. Was it lower than The Acolyte? Well, I think The Acolyte came after. So it was the lowest. It isn't anymore, but it was. And everyone hated it. And everyone was like, ah, this show sucks. We don't like it. But you know what? There were actually a couple episodes that stood out because they got really good ratings on Rotten Tomato and IMDb, and people enjoyed them. You know what episodes those were? Those were the episodes that weren't Boba Fett.
Those were the Mandalorian episodes that they put in the book of Boba Fett. Which people who liked Boba Fett were mad about this. Because they were like, where's Boba Fett? He's not in his own show. But technically, you know, those episodes might have been maybe a little more fun. I don't know. And people who liked The Mandalorian were mad about it. Because they're like, now I have to go watch. I've met lots of people who's like their moms or something watch The Mandalorian. Like now I have to go have my mom watch like one episode of the Book of Boba Fett just so she knows what's going on. But a Disney executive is going to look at the numbers and they're going to say, what does this mean? This means that the data says that people want Mando, not Boba. So what should we do? We should stop greenlighting Boba Fett projects, but let's not throw away those plots. Let's recast them with the Mandalorian.
Right. That's what people want. To be fair, if you watch the book of Boba Fett from that episode, that is The Mandalorian, and then just watch all the episodes after that, it's actually an okay show. I agree, yeah. Like those, everything after that episode is good, it's great. I like the Sand People stuff, too. Fun action, they fight the Pikes, they win. The other issue that Disney was facing is that Mandalorian Season 3 also underperformed somewhat. Yeah. It still did well, you know, people still like The Mandalorian, but it was the lowest rated season. and significantly so i don't know maybe it was because it was drifting away from classic mandalorian wasn't in it right which you know classic mandalorian stuff is classic boba fett stuff it's you know cd underworld of the star wars universe it's bounty hunting it's you know all the fun monster of the week bounty of the week kind of stuff and they weren't doing that anymore they
were doing nobody wanted the bo-katan they were doing the bo-katan show i don't know i don't know they were doing lots of bo-katan lots of ahsoka lots of other stuff i think disney at least started to acknowledge that and they were like hey we need a bounty hunter flavored mandalorian thing like either a show or a movie or something we need a story that is you know sort of the remedy to this boring political mandalorian you know stuff and i think that they were like hey we've got one it's right here in this drawer with boba fett's name on it let's just erase that bounty hunting and let's use it right now i think the book of boba fett season two was never greenlit but they had a plot for it a plot that was just sitting in limbo no one was using it um and we know that you know there was no renewal there was no cancellation technically they're just silence they haven't said anything about the book of boba fett season two but the threads left dangling at the end of
season one were clearly seeding what were they seeding they were seeding an escalation with the twins the twins were a major part of the book of boba fett like i said that that first season set up a whole war between boba fett and the twins um we were left with you know the escalation of his crime syndicate fighting with theirs, the future of Jabba's empire. All of these ideas had nowhere to go. Technically, he was fighting against the Pikes. The twins showed up just to say that they were essentially relinquishing the Tatooine territory officially. Right, but I mean... And they gave him a rancor. If they were going to do a season two, who do you think would have been, you know, the big bad if they were going to continue with the plot of him running a crime syndicate? I think it would have been Jabba's biggest rival, you know, the twins. By, you know, Favreau and Filoni's own account, the original plot of the Mandalorian movie was like thrown out and they had to build a new plot fast.
They said they'd already written season four and it was centered on Grand Admiral Thrawn and it was going to help set up Ahsoka season two. They were suddenly told that it has to become a movie and they were like, we can't make this script into a movie, so we're just going to throw it out and find something else. I mean, that's what, like, was promised, like, from the trailers. He's going after Imperial remnants in the trailers. They show the twins, but they're not a huge, like... Yeah, exactly. They show Road of the Hutt and all that in the trailer. But, like, you think it's going to be about more of what Mandalorian was already about, which was always him going after Imperial remnants, like Gideon, for three seasons. And also the fact that they said the phrase, heir to the Empire in season three of Mandalorian, and Ahsoka has been setting up Thrawn's return. Everyone thought that The Mandalorian was going to be some big movie, maybe even taking inspiration from heir to the empire.
But something that was going to be setting up for something much bigger regarding the Imperial Remnants and what's been brewing for seasons now. And then you watch this movie and as I was watching it, I was just like aghast. Just like, what is even going on? This is like a fetch quest. Like it's just going from one random thing to another. There's no like cohesive plot here. It's just Mando. Just like, I mean, sure, he has a reputation for just bumbling around and bumbling into things. And he's certainly doing that. But like, man, this movie was just so weird to be watching. And like, just like, how did they even, did they read the script? Like, how did they think this was a good movie? Like a cohesive plot? Like anything that any of the fans wanted? Yeah, exactly. we know that they had an idea and a plot for the next season and they had to throw it away because now they're making a movie. And what do we know about Favreau? What does he love to do
when he doesn't have a plot? He loves to reuse something that he already has. Like he just takes Darth Maul's plot, you know, and just uses that. My theory was that was that was Filoni. Oh, yeah. Sorry, Filoni. Yeah. I mean, I think that he was like, hey, we've got this plot sitting around. Let's just use this. What possible evidence could I have for this? Let's look at who actually received top billing for The Mandalorian and Grogu. Of course, we've got Filoni, we've got Favreau, and we've got a third guy. He received top billing. He's right there. It's the writer, Noah Klor. Who's Noah Klor? What has he ever done? Where did he come from? I looked him up and I was expecting to find Mandalorian stuff. The dude wrote a single episode of Mandalorian Season 3 and it was a crappy episode that people hated. But you know what else he's done? He was the staff writer for the Book of Boba Fett. And he received writing credits for every single episode of the Book of Boba Fett.
They got the writer of the Book of Boba Fett. And they're like, let's have him write the Mandalorian movie, apparently. Does this make any sense? If they're writing a Mandalorian movie, why would they get this writer who has nothing to do with the Mandalorian? He wrote one very badly received episode that didn't even feature the Mandalorian, barely. Why would he be writing the movie? It doesn't make any sense. He knows them. Well, clearly he knows them. That's a good reason for him to be on this project. I don't know. When I saw all three names up there, I was like, that last guy who I've never heard of, he's definitely the guy who wrote the entire script. Like, I would bet money that Filoni and Favreau wrote not even one word. 100%. They gave him just notes and were like, here, write this. Now write this. What if he went after Road of the Hut? I think you're right. And I think for him to receive top billing on here all along, literally, listed with his name right underneath Filoni and Favreau, I think he wrote it.
And I think it was the Book of Boba Fett movie. It just doesn't make any sense for him to be working on this if it was not pulling deeply from the Book of Boba Fett lore. Before we get into the nitty-gritty of the plot, do we want to just say, like, what did you actually think of The Mandalorian and Grogu? Because before it came out, there was, like, mostly bad critical reviews of it. But then when it did come out, oddly enough, the quote-unquote toxic Star Wars fan base really loved it. Like, I heard nothing but praise from the fans just saying, this is an amazing movie. Mandalorian is great. Grogu is great. and so i went in thinking hey you know maybe it's going to be good but i came out i guess as one of the toxic fans who hates everything even though i love star wars but i just i didn't think it was good i thought it was a waste of a movie seeing mando do things is always fun like i'll give you
that sure and i love the huts like i know they're they're actually i've met a lot of people who don't like the huts and they're like oh but like i love huts i love the bounty hunters i love the you know, the underworld stories. And yet, I don't know. I just, everything about this was just so weird. It had a relatively weak plot. I think it barely ties into The Mandalorian at all as a character. And it doesn't tie into his story in any way. And I think that that is to the detriment of the movie. And I think it would have been to the gain of The Book of Boba Fett if they had actually, you know, made it Boba Fett's movie or, you know, season two of The Book of Boba Fett. I think that hurts the movie a lot. and it really impacted my enjoyment of the movie but having said that i will say it is always nice to see tertiary star wars stuff happening in the star wars universe it's fun to see something that's
not just jedis going around you know being jedis like you know like it's fun to see just you know the mandalorian like going to a planet finding a guy who runs a hot dog stand and then hustling him for information right like this is the kind of stuff that i enjoy in star wars is just seeing like these people that live their Star Wars lives and how they interact with each other. That being said, I think that you will understand when I say Dexter Jetster is like my favorite Star Wars character ever. No, he's not.
And in fact, he's not even a good example of what I just described because he is the random like cafe owner who happens to also know the location of Kamino, the clone making planet. The Jedi's library doesn't even know about it. Exactly. And he knows everything about their Kamino and dart weapons. It doesn't make any freaking sense. I think he was seeded with information by the Emperor. I think he was set up as an informant to send them on the track of Jango. Oh, man. Dexter Jetster. What a guy. If anyone doesn't know who that is, he's the four-armed cafe owner from Star Wars Episode II, Attack of the Clones. It's like a 1950s Café Forlum and Zakass at one point take the café hostage. Yeah, dude, they did because they were bounty hunters, and that's what bounty hunters do. That's what bounty hunters do. Someone was saying the reason why Mandalorian Season 3 was bad. And they were saying things like, first you have to know about what it means to be a writer and to write good things.
Oh no, you shouldn't ever have to know that. They were saying things. there's this thing called set up and pay off. And I was like, sure. Yeah, that's true. And then he was like, everything in the Mandalorian seasons one and two was setting up something that they never paid off. And the two things he listed were two things that I was just like, oh no, that wouldn't have made season three better. It would have made it so much worse. The two things were, he was going to become the guy who used the Darksaber and got good at using the Darksaber. I'm like, maybe they did set that up. But like, I don't want to see that. I don't want to see Mando with a dark, that's stupid. He's a Mandalorian. I don't want to see him with a lightsaber. Well, the darksaber shouldn't even exist. It's stupid. It's stupid. Everything about the darksaber is stupid and I wish it didn't exist. The other thing was, he was like, and they set up that he was going to get away from his Mandalorian cult and become one of the normal Mandalorians who takes off his helmet all the time.
He's right. I'm like, no, they did kind of set that up. It's true. I'm glad they didn't do that because I like the OG Mandalorians who don't take off their masks. I hate the Filoni Mandalorians that are just like, just these guys are taking off, like, they're just nothing. They're nothing. They're literally nothing. I like This Is The Way and all the, like, the creed. Everything about the OG Mandalorians is cool. Everything about Bo-Katan's Mandalorians is just like, they're just dudes in the Star Wars universe. They could be anyone. Yeah, no, they suck. You asked how I felt about The Mandalorian and Grogu, and I will say I enjoyed watching it because I enjoy watching Star Wars stuff. Deep in my heart, though, I left the theater enraged. I was angry, and I immediately texted you like a ton of angry texts after. Yeah, you were mad. Did you even read those? I was pissed. I did. So yeah, I think it's a movie that's enjoyable.
I think it has fun elements, but as a movie, I think it's an affront to humankind, And I think it should be burned. So, no, I we were left with an entire season of Book of Boba Fett season two. Lots of dangling plots, lots of places to go. And I think that they ripped the wiring out and put Mandalorian in there instead. The Mandalorian and Grogu, that movie, if you took it as the Book of Boba Fett season two, I think it would not only resolve all of the dangling plots, basically, but also it would resolve everybody's biggest concerns and questions about the book of Boba Fett. I think Boba Fett never wanted to be a crime lord, and I think this movie proves it. I think Boba Fett didn't want to be a crime lord, he wanted to restore one. Boba Fett crawled out of that sarlacc, and he entered into a galaxy that was out of whack. It was out of balance. Boba Fett wants to be a bounty hunter who is working in a universe that he understands,
where he has a solid place, where he is trusted, where he has contacts, and where he can demand a high price. I think the death of Java threw that way out of whack. I think he needed to restore the number one most functional criminal enterprise of the galaxy in order to continue his career. I think that he needed to pick up the pieces of Java's empire. I think that he needed to get rid of Bib Fortuna and take this throne. And I think it was not out of ambition. I think he was trying to keep that scattered empire that he was very attached to from being carved up by the Pykes and other rivals. I think that he needed to hand it back to the rightful heir, Rhoda the Hutt who was apparently like the main character of the Mandalorian and Grogu for some reason. Yeah, for some reason. I think that the twins who were introduced in season one were the main threat to this because they had the biggest claim to Jabba's
throne besides Rhoda and I think that it made the most sense for oh and they also by the way they sent they sent the wookie to kill him right the wookie that ended up joining him yeah and then that's why they gave him the rancor to apologize for that so yeah they they wanted to kill boba they wanted to take over the empire and they set the stage for that in that first season um i think the most obvious thing to do would be to continue with that to you know have a full-on war between boba fett's empire and the twins empire with rhoda caught in the middle also i think there are many elements in the book of boba fett tv show and even in Boba Fett's own canon past that were going to be Easter eggs or plot elements. The rival hunter who captures the Mandalorian in Grogu, I think that was probably going to be Cad Bane. I think that he was either going to have survived or maybe he comes back or maybe they had planned
not to kill him off in season one and have him show up in season two or possibly it was still going to be Embo. But either way, I think it was supposed to be a face-off with Boba Fett against a Filoni bounty hunter, right? Well, and one thing that Filoni loves to do is to just put his characters in things. And Embo is one of them. So you definitely couldn't resist the opportunity for Embo when like, we would have been so happy to see any other bounty hunter, like any of the bounty hunters that we like yeah not i mean i i have nothing against embo he's got kind of a cool hat i guess but i'm like if it had been four limbs a cuss dangar ig88 boss man i wish it was one of them i thought it was going to be one of them i honestly i thought it was going to be ig88 and i was like but that won't work because we already know ig11 so that that'll just be confusing to people who like the mandalorian that was another weird uh omission from this movie was that after
the the end of season three of the mandalorian is we finally brought back ig11 you know he's he's back in one piece and then he's not even in this movie like you're just you're expecting him to be in it and he's just completely absent but you know who was maybe because it wasn't mando's movie you know who was in it that random pilot dude from star wars rebels i think yeah well i hate hate in the world was that guy doing in this movie he was just seen stealing everything and acting like he was hot shit and doing like nothing like what was he doing well i think it's because he's he's a feloni character yeah so feloni gets to put in one of his characters but he doesn't cost much because he's entirely cg yeah okay and they can just use his voice actor because which was another huge complaint i had about this movie was there are so many cg characters i felt like mando doesn't talk to a single real person other than sigourney weaver like it's great that grogu and those little
guys are puppets that's great that they're that they're practical effects that's and it's great but everyone else that's a good thing i love the aliens yeah that's good but the four-armed like hot dog salesman he's totally cg rhoda is totally cd or rada i guess is what they say i always i I don't know why I say Rhoda, but whatever. The twins are totally CG. Like every hut is CG. All of their droids are CG, except for two exceptions. And the fisherman that Grogu meets is CG. Like, I just felt like there are no real people in this movie. Zeb is CG. Like, it was just, it was, I started feeling a little disgusted that there was, like, everything just felt so fake watching it. And Embo was the one character who I really felt like he could have been a real person in a costume. Yeah. Like it did not have to be Mando fighting a CG character. Like he's humanoid. I know maybe he's a little taller and skinnier,
but like he could have just been, like he's CG, his dog is CG. So much CG. Yeah, I know. They obviously probably spent a lot of money doing the puppetry for Grogu and the Anzelans, I think is what they're called. Yeah, I think so. And maybe they spent a ton of money on that stop motion giant robot. I mean, I'll tell you what I don't know why that was stop motion. Practical effects and puppets a lot of times are similar cost to CG or sometimes even cheaper, sometimes more expensive. I think that the main difference is planning. I think if you're going to do practical effects, you have to actually plan it out and, you know, have an idea of what you're going to do in advance. Whereas CG, you don't need to know. You can just throw it in there. So I think that was the side effect of this movie being like a scramble to actually get it done and, you know, borrowing from the book of Boba Fett stuff.
Well, one of the scenes that bothered me most in the movie was when the Mandalorian is storming the, you know, that evil imperial officer who was totally shoehorned in there and had nothing to do with the movie. He was storming his office and like you got the Mandalorian like really carefully, you know, going in and taking on every stormtrooper and doing this cool choreographed action sequence to get closer and closer to that guy. And then in between this action sequence, they just kept cutting to like the most random, nonsensical, pointless scenes of Zeb running through a hallway, a never ending hallway with the camera right in front of him as he just reached out and a stormtrooper died. He reached out and a stormtrooper died and he was just do do do do do do do do do. And I was like, what? I was like, how is this guy? And it's so weird. He killed like 27 stormtroopers in that scene with his fists.
And I was like, what? This guy's not a Mandalorian. He's a pilot. And the Mandalorian's having a harder time than he is. He's prancing through the hallways, just racking up kills. He's invincible. No one can do this. Who is this guy? I was like, why does this exist in this movie? what is going on like well there are a few reasons that it's weird because first of all in the rebel show zeb is not a pilot he's not their pilot he's their muscle i haven't seen it i don't know who he is i don't think he ever flies the ghost well like it's always harrison doula flying the ghost like he's not the pilot i don't know why he's a rebel pilot now i don't know why that is okay the other like he showed up in whatever it was season three of mandalorian and like his blue rebel pilot outfit was just like hey there also the other thing is that zeb it zeb sucks in the rebel show like he is the big doofus of the show like if you've seen the bad batch he is the wreck
the wrecker or the rika of that show um like he's the idiot doofus strong man who pretty much always fails at everything he's just the guy who gets angry and gets beaten um i i can't stand zeb i think he's such a waste in the in the rebels show like i i actually like most of the other rebels characters not a fan of kanan but uh i've liked most of the other characters but i just can't stand zeb um the other thing that makes me dislike zeb is that if you look at his character design his species and then you look at the concept art specifically for chewbacca like the early concept art he is chewbacca's early concept which was really ugly wookie yeah yeah just like just disgusting wookie with like a pig nose and like weird feet and he's he's purple the original wookie was brown but he's easy he's an easy cameo and they're they're counting on like fans of rebels being like oh yeah it's them he's taking out stormtroopers just like he always did oh wait no
he really didn't i mean just some consistency like they could have him have a fight with some stormtroopers but he was just laying waste to them and they kept cutting to him and i don't know why he was doing this back to the back to the theory i already touched on this i think that they basically took all of this leftover um book of boba fett stuff and then i think they slapped in just the most cobbled together shoehorned like not even tangible new republic plot everything to do with the new republic in this show first of all it it barely even exists but second of all it makes no sense like you've got the new republic sending the mandalorian who doesn't even work for the new republic out with zeb and they are going on a mission to work for the huts why is the new republic providing like third-party contractors to the huts so gurney weaver gave the excuse that like we're trying to build relationships with the hut empire um because it'll help the new republic
Yeah. And governments usually build relationships through like, I don't know, trades and deals instead of like, here's a random bounty hunter. I guess he kind of works for us. Boy, Mando is a bumbling fool. Now he works for you. He's not someone you send in for like negotiations. Exactly. With like someone you're trying to build a relationship with. He's not like Princess Leia. They could send Leia. She loves Huts. She'd get into her bikini. Whoa, you're right. She'd be like a great ambassador to the Huts. She knows just how to do it. no i think uh everything about the new republic was just like really really badly shoehorned in and then i think they also just slapped on like as like a flimsy sticker they slapped on this like you know mandalorian grogu like fatherhood plot and those things they had nothing to do with the actual movie that was going on it was just to disguise the fact that this is not you know this
is boba fett this is boba fett but we put the mandalorian's helmet on him i mean boba could work for the new republic they're the new government now like he would work for them if they put out bounty hunter bounty hunters are not he worked for the empire because they were the government putting out bounties which apparently no one who has ever written star wars understands no one knows it's so weird all you have to do is look up bounty hunter law enforcement they may operate outside the bounds of like you know the police right and they may do things that are not legal it's a little shadier but they are law enforcement an arm of law enforcement i'm going to go through everything we've talked about so far and i'm going to give you hard solid evidence for these things and how they actually relate to the book of boba fett or how they don't relate to the mandalorian the twins the main antagonist of the movie the hut twins
they were introduced and seated as boba fett's rivals in his show they showed up saying hey this is our stuff and we want it and you got to give it to us and they sent an assassin and they're trying to kill boba fett and uh all of that was basically left unresolved like yeah they gave him a rancor and they're like okay we'll leave but it was kind of the subtext of like we'll be back but let's look at the mandalorian what does he have to do with these guys nothing nothing he's never met them he's never interacted with them and he even says it out loud as he's flying well But first of all, when Sigourney Weaver tells him to go deal with them, he says, I don't deal with Hutts. None of this makes sense. And it is only, first of all, relevant. And second of all, it's only a payoff if they are going to have some interaction with the man who took Jabba's throne. And that man is Boba Fett. So it doesn't make sense for them to be the antagonist of this movie in any way.
Yes, they're antagonistic, but not towards Mando. The entire movie itself is about Jabba's empire. That is the core plot of this movie. That is the scaffolding that holds this movie together, is what will happen with Jabba's empire. If you can say there even is a plot. Yeah, if you can say there is a plot, then it's that. Since Radha's out of the picture, what happens now? Are we going to rescue him? Are we going to kill him? Are we going to save him? Are we going to keep him safe? All of this is the idea of what happens to Jabba's criminal empire. Wait a minute. Jabba's criminal empire or Boba Fett's criminal empire? Because he officially took it over. And there's no mention of that in the movie. Nope. Like, they were talking about it, and they were like, oh, we want to, you know, Rada's all like, oh, they want to kill me because they want my dad's empire. And I was like, dude, where have you been?
Have you not heard? It's Boba Fett's empire now. Like, are you unaware? Because that's official. Like, that's canon in this universe. It's not yours. It's not Jabba's. It's Boba Fett's. And no one said it. And the Mandalorian was there with Boba Fett defending that empire. I'm just like, am I taking crazy pills? Because something's wrong. Like, this doesn't make any sense. Jabba the Hutt's empire was bigger than just Tatooine. And Boba just took over Tatooine. And the twins are running everything else about his empire. But they're afraid that Radha could take over what they have come to control. If that's the case, then wouldn't that be the next season of the Book of Boba Fett? him consolidating the rest of his own empire wouldn't that be what he's doing shouldn't he be here like all of this is happening and he's just sleeping with him if he was going to do that no i mean even at a core level let's let's strip out plot and just say hey what are the elements
that make in the in the disney universe and the disney star wars what are the elements that make something boba fett and what are the elements that make something mandalorian boba fett is apparently all about java he's all about huts he's all about crime syndicates he's all about you know successions and who's going to run you know the this empire be the damyo and stuff what is the mandalorian what are the elements that make something mandalorian within disney star wars they are grogu asuka luke the darksaber um mandalore uh bo-katan those are mandalorian elements what of those does this movie contain grogu that's it just grogu and barely that right what of the boba fett it does have some imperial remnant guys it contains all of the boba fett elements except for the mod squad right like this is the boba fett movie even if you don't even look at the plot just looking at the elements of what in the disney universe represents these
characters nothing in this movie has anything to do with the mandalorians mythos this is all boba fett mythos according to disney as much as i'm you know not a big fan of it this is what they built boba fett to be the idea of restoring the air to boba fett's empire in my opinion and other people may disagree with this but in my opinion that retroactively fixes everything broken about boba fett season one everyone was wondering about like why is boba fett doing this why does he suddenly wants to become a crime lord why is he saying i'm not a bounty hunter all right it's because he was not he was not trying to be the crime lord he was trying to hold together the pieces of this crumbling empire and restore its rightful heir in my opinion i think he it was all building towards him bringing rada back um i think he was trying to secure his own perfect niche to continue his career his bounty hunting career what happened in the book of boba fett we've got
he killed Bib Fortuna and he seized the throne. He consolidated all of the holdings. He got the pikes out. He got the twins out. He fended off their attacks. And then what would the next step be? Maybe locating and rescuing Jabba's son. Restoring him to power. Yeah. Giving him the reins to this empire that he has successfully defended from all of Radha's rivals. Boba didn't want a syndicate. He's a bounty hunter. He just wants a balance of power. He just wants a galaxy that he can work in. If he had rescued Jabba's crime syndicate, if he had rescued Rod of the Hutt, that would have given him the ultimate autonomy and respect within that, you know, sphere of influence. With Jabba dead and his, you know, his network scattered and, you know, being carved up by whichever organization happens to be there, that doesn't give Boba Fett anything. That gives him nothing. He would have to go and make deals with every single organization individually, and he wouldn't have the same respect and the same, you know, power to command of high price that he normally has. But if he was able to consolidate it and get it back under the true air, that gives him a permanent seat as like Rada's most trusted bounty hunter and, you know, right hand man.
That's the only way that season one of Book of Boba Fett makes sense. He did not want to be a crime lord. He had to be a crime lord. He had to put on that Damyo hat for a minute to ensure his career. Just the fact that the introduction of Radha fixes so many broken things in the Book of Boba Fett, to me, is really good evidence that that was the plot of the Book of Boba Fett season two. Let's talk about Grogu. What does Grogu do in this movie? He doesn't do anything, right? He jumps into a jet-powered carriage, which doesn't make sense. A baby stroller that goes the speed of a car. Right, and no one talked about it, no one mentioned it, and no one even looked at it. It was like it wasn't there, because the scene was written without it, right? I just wonder what's wrong with Star Wars parents, that they think that's okay to put your child in something that can go that fast. When the Mandalorian gets captured and forced to fight in the gladiator pit, where's Grogu?
Yeah. He's there. That's it. He's just kind of there. He's eating popcorn. They put him in a little cage. Why? I don't know. No, because that guy really liked pets, they established. He wanted Grogu as a pet. We talked about the gladiator match, by the way. I just want to point out, that was directly lifted from Boba Fett canon. Like, that is Boba Fett canon. like it's in the disney are you talking about the the prequel to the war of the bounty hunters comic i am i'm talking about the comic that came out to set the stage for the war of bounty hunters comic which is canon boba fett has han solo takes him away from cloud city and then han solo's carbonite starts melting or something and he's like crap i gotta work the bounty hunters comic is insane it's insane we shouldn't even get into it here because it's too insane we should do it So we should do it justice. We should actually do a full episode about it.
The whole plot of the War of the Bounty Hunters is like Boba Fett, after he got Han, actually he like lost Han seven times and everyone wanted Han. Everyone wanted Han. Even Darth Vader. Including Darth Vader, who just gave Han to Boba. He's like, actually I want him. You know who else wanted Han and showed up and tried to get him? Jabba the Hutt. And is like, hey, wait, actually, I want that back. Yeah. And then Jabba shows up and wants him. He was waiting for Boba to deliver him. Boba is bringing him to Han. He shows up and he's like, actually, I'm taking him. He's mine. I just don't know what Vader was smoking. He's just like, hey, wait a minute. Give me that guy back. Why did I give you that guy? He's mine. I want him. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. But importantly, it starts out with like, first, I think Han Solo gets like, he gets taken, right? And then Boba Fett's like, oh, crap, I got to get my Han back.
And to do this, he has to join the gladiator pits. uh but he can't join the gladiator pits because everyone knows who he is they're like we won't let boba fett fight in the gladiator pits so he has to paint his armor he has to paint his armor black and he has to go by the name of jango which is his daddy's name and then uh he basically would have been better if he went by jaster but oh yeah or if he went by like i don't know din jarin or something no then he he fights in the gladiator pits and it's like a one-to-one you know exactly what happens to to to dinjarin in the mandalorian yeah well it's not a daedric match no but they don't bring back the daedric pieces but it is like he is framed as like very very impressive and he gets top billing they call him the beskar brawler and it's just like how they're like oh you know if you want to fight in the in the gladiator matches mandalorian that would
be that would bring in a large crowd you know it's the exact same thing it's the it's framed in the same way if we see a mandalorian armored bounty hunter forced into you know a death pit fighting in a gladiator match i think that is boba fett right he did that the movie did not invent that scene as we talked about in our previous mandalorian episode that the very first episode of the mandalorian was taking material straight from a boba fett one-shot comic exactly so this was the part of the movie where i felt like it started to feel fetch questy where it was like he's going to get rhoda and he he comes to the hot dog salesman and then he goes to see rhoda and then he goes to see the hot dog salesman and then he goes to see rhoda again like it was just back and forth and i was just sitting there like i am bored right now like probably what are even the stakes here it probably wouldn't have been so weird and so disjointed if those were like
separated into episodes and each episode had its own plot. Or if it just had like higher stakes like there was something like say Thrawn was in the mix and we're fighting to set up some Thrawn plan. Maybe. Then I'd be like whoa oh no. I don't think every single plot needs to be like you know galaxy altering. No not necessarily but like at this point he doesn't even know that the twins are going to kill Rada. He should have. It's like he really should have. Like it's not that complicated dude. The gladiator match was actually my favorite scene in the movie because i don't know if you noticed this but the gladiator pit the tiling of the floor was literally a hollow chess board from the very first star wars movie and the creatures that they let in there to kill you know mandalorian and rada they were the hollow chess pieces every creature was a hollow chess piece and and that big the big one uh who i don't i think it's called
the Mantellian Savrip. And it did exactly what it does in the chess match. It went over to one of the other monsters and picked it up and then just gently put it down. And it goes, rawr! Yeah. And if you watch, you know, A New Hope and you see that scene, you think, oh, this is just bad stop motion. You know, they're just trying to do a cool effect and it didn't pan out. But no, that turns out, that's like that creature's actual signature move. That's how it kills its enemies. It picks them up and slowly puts them down. And it's like, that's like a death knell. Like, you're dead if it does that. You're not getting up. The official name for holochess is Daedric. Whoa, okay. And when the guy, Imperial Remnant guy that Boba has to deal with to get Rada, he says, I'm getting one of each kind of all dangerous species. Mando says, you're doing a Daedric match? Yeah, it's true. I don't know how he knew that instantly.
But one of each kind of species meant those ones from Holochess, from Daedric. That was a masterwork of an Easter egg. I think that was like a 48-year-old deep cut back to the very first Star Wars movie. And it was incredibly well done in my life. One thing I have to mention that really kind of bothered me is just watching Rhoda and, of course, the twins. move huts all huts in this movie seem to move by laying down onto their torso and kind of dragging themselves with their hands yeah yeah which is weird because the deleted scene from the very first a new hope that they added back in where han solo steps on jabba the hutt's tail and they shouldn't have added back in because it really kind of takes away a lot from jabba and how menacing whole scene like it just it ruins everything about the greedo scene that came right before like why was greedo there if java is right there like who knows and why was greedo trying to kill
han if java's like totally cordial he's like hey buddy how's it going where's my cargo oh you lost it and like we'll fix it didn't even have a chance because boba fett was there with java yeah he's there he goes and looks at the camera it's like yep i'm boba fett what's up man i love the special edition changes they're so in that scene when they made this cg job of the hut they established that he walks kind of like a centaur with his torso upright and his slug body moving like a slug but i don't know it was just so weird to me that the people who made this movie didn't go and watch that scene when they were making the huts because that's the scene with a cg hut if you're making a cg hut go and watch that scene maybe it's not a bad thing if they give the huts a unique way of moving around yeah because it's not it's something that bothers me that much but it was just something that every time he starts dragging himself around on his hands i'm just like but why yeah you're a
slug move like a slug like but maybe maybe that's not a bad thing to give them like a very unique and strange way of moving and in my opinion it made them aggressive like it made them scary like you don't want to see a hut barrel and towards you going just like you know like the only explanation that i could come up with if i'm gonna do the whole star wars stick where we take something that was canon that got changed and try and reconcile it i would say maybe job of the hut was in like diplomacy mode and when a hut is in you know diplomacy they try to move in a way that doesn't aggravate other creatures. And they do that by sort of, right? But when Hutt is in like Hutt mode- Then that was a huge insult for Han Solo to step on his tail like that. Exactly. Because Jabba was in diplomacy mode. Yeah, he was being nice. So yeah, Jabba should have gotten down on all fours and just started dragging himself around the dirt after that.
But anyway, I think that we have to admit that everything Grogu did in this movie was nothing right up until the point where the Mandalorian got poisoned and Grogu had to save him. That whole section where Grogu is trying to save Din Djarin from the poison, it just makes me angry. It's stupid. It doesn't make any sense. Well, he's not trying to save Mandalorian. He's not doing anything. He has no goal in that scene. And I know he's just a baby, but to me it was a boring scene because he's just building a little hut, Which, it's cool that Yoda's species just seems to instinctively know how to build little mud houses. That's what they do. So that is cool. I like that. But, like, I wish that even though he's a baby, they had given him more of a goal. Like, he's not a baby. He's, like, 60 years old. Well, yeah, that's the thing, too. Everyone says, like, because I brought this up with other people, that, like, he should have been able to, he should have been trying to save Mando more.
To give this scene just more interest. Yeah. And they were saying, but he's just a baby. And I'm like, but he knew the at the beginning of this movie, he knows those bombs are going to explode and he's tapping like that's not a baby doesn't know that. He clearly understands a lot more than a baby does. Yeah. He's just can't talk now. He does push the buttons like firing the missiles at Zeb. That was so helpful. But I kind of think he was doing that on purpose. He was trying to kill Zeb. He doesn't like him. It's like Mando tells him to push the button and then he lifts like the safety thing. But like that means don't push this switch and push something that's not a button. It's a switch. And Mando's like, that's why there's a safety cover on it. Do not click the missile switches. And then he does it again. And he does it again. Sorry, one major gripe with this movie. Mandalorian gets his razor crest.
Well, he gets a new razor crest and he sits Grogu down in the pilot seat. And Grogu never once played with the little ball that was his favorite part of the Razorcrest. Yeah, I thought that was going to be the last thing they did in the movie was that he unscrews it and he gives it to him. That was like their thing. Why did they do that? I don't understand. That's like the main point of having a Razorcrest. Unscrewing that ball and giving it to the Grogu, right? Grogu's entire role in this movie, I think the whole thing was flawed. the movie is called the mandalorian and grogu which to me implies that the movie should have a deep relationship based arc between these two characters that not only serves to further their relationship with each other but also the actual core plot of the movie which it did not do everything about the mandalorian and grogu themselves in this movie was not load-bearing
you could take it out of the movie and it changes the movie not a single bit mandalorian he's fight and this giant snake gets poisoned falls unconscious and then grogu has to like kind of take care of him a bit and then talks to like a swamp man and gets like a magical deus ex machina antidote and then saves him and then the movie resumes it's a freaking i've talked to so many people who liked this part of the movie and i just couldn't do it i thought it was boring baby yoda has no goal and then he just happens to find this fisherman and what really made me so mad Not only does the fisherman just happen to know the antidote, but the reason that he finds out about it at all is not because of anything to do with Baby Yoda or any action Baby Yoda takes. It's because Embo, a guy who is not on their side, a guy who is actively hunting them down, comes and tells that fisherman everything he needs to know.
Like, why did Embo show up to save the day? It's so weird. i will say this i think the mandalorian and grogu having like a bit of a father-son moment and reversing that and having grogu care for the mandalorian is a good story beat i think it works i just think that it had nothing to do with this movie right i think it was poorly implemented and poorly shoehorned in how did the mandalorian get poisoned he got poisoned by this gigantic skyscraper sized snake dragon why would a creature like that even have poison be poisonous it kills by crushing and swallowing its prey why is it venomous this doesn't make any sense there aren't any large creatures like that the largest creature known that is venomous is probably like the the komodo dragon right in in our universe yeah and you know even that is it doesn't it doesn't fight like this snake thing you know it bites and then lets the thing die this snake thing was like trying
to rampage on him it was trying to kill him like a bear or a lion you know it was going all out force it doesn't make sense that it would use poison but it had to because grogu needed to save his daddy right they needed that moment so all of a sudden halfway through this fight the you know the hut calls out he's like oh oh i've got a by the way it's poisonous it's poisonous you're gonna die because the poison just so the audience knows right it's so dumb so stupid now you talked about the random you know hermit who shows up he materializes out of nowhere we haven't seen him before and guess what we never see him again he's he's magically here for the 30 minutes that we need him and he's gone afterwards and he was always gone before he shows up he gets the information from some other person who shouldn't be trying to help din jarin in any way and you know crisis introduced crisis resolved crisis forgotten like it never was touched on
ever again in the movie the book of boba fett plot line is the engine of this movie and the mandalorian and grogu is like a bumper sticker that they you know put on the back of the movie right it has nothing to do with the movie itself there should have been some foundational change like either a growth in the apprenticeship of you know the mandalorian which they touched on right he he puts on grogu's armor and he's like remember to wear it and you know it'll protect you right it's like he's kind of teaching him to be a mandalorian but this has nothing to do with that and this didn't know i expected grogu to actually maybe use the armor he has like little gauntlets that he puts on too i expected maybe those have a gadget he could use at some point but he like really doesn't do anything no and he like shows up and digs into that random like robot that they fight but no it's not like a mentor moment it's not like a oh my son is is growing up
the mandalorian suddenly needed grogu and grogu suddenly helped in the end and also like you said grogu didn't help he didn't do anything no so that being said there's nothing wrong with the moments in the movie, right? It's good to have the Mandalorian and Grogu. It's good to put them in a situation that reverses it where all of a sudden, you know, the Mandalorian discovered Grogu in the very first episode in his baby carriage and picked him up and carried him because Grogu couldn't do anything. Well, now Grogu is carrying the Mandalorian because he's unconscious and can't do anything. That's good, right? And there's a reason people responded well to it. But it's empty. It's nothing it's a ghost of a shell of a plot it's it's garbage they'd do anything with it so yeah there's a reason you hated it and there's a reason i hated it and there's also a reason people liked it and i don't want to undercut that because there's nothing wrong with doing this they just
did it badly well speaking of growing up and and we were talking about how old grogu is i thought another weird thing was that mando keeps referring to rada as kid yeah like he's a kid when rado was a baby at the beginning of the clone wars and i know they say that huts live as long as yoda's species but still like ahsoka carried rada as a baby he's older than mando and it's not the same as baby yoda where baby yoda's 50 like rada is an adult yeah so like at this point even if their species ages slowly it's weird for mando to be calling him kid i i think mando just didn't understand that this guy is fully grown. But I feel like I'd have to watch it again. I feel like Zeb calls him kid too. Another one other callback Easter egg in this movie. It's always made zero sense how Jabba promised them that they would suffer for a thousand years being slowly digested by the Sarlacc, right? That makes no sense. It's stupid. And it's funny. And I love it. And it's
great because it forced Star Wars fans to come up with all kinds of about how the Sarlacc is not A Jedi, but it has force powers and it uses its force to sustain you as it eats you for a thousand years, far longer than your lifespan would have been. So good. Well, we know from Book of Boba Fett that it fattens you up. Yeah, exactly. It fattens you up. You know, he got out of that Sarlacc in better condition than when he went in, just with less hair, right? Well, a lot fatter, maybe a lot of shape. Debatably, maybe in worse shape. But I love the callback in this movie where they were like, you know, we were going to kill Rada, but now he's going to suffer for a thousand years. I was like, yeah, that's what Hutts do. They love when things suffer for a thousand years. It's because Hutts are so long lived. They just assume everyone else is. They assume everyone lives for a thousand years. And that's actually a really nice little cap to put on Jabba saying that, right?
That was just him not thinking. He's just like, that's like me saying you're going to suffer the rest of your life. That's just, Hunt's word for the rest of their life is a thousand years. It's a thousand years. That's their lifespan. So he was just like, you're going to suffer for the rest of your life being slowly digested. And C-3PO, being a terrible protocol droid, just translated it word for word. He didn't catch the nuance. I think that's so fun. I loved it. I loved it. To me, that fixes that line just as much as this movie would have fixed the Book of Boba Fett season one's plot. I was going to say that right after the And Grogu part of the movie, they go to gear up on the gunrunner ship. What's weird about this ship is that they did set it up, at least, because he said that he was having Radha get transport with gunrunners. They established that the twins got Radha. So presumably that's why the gunrunner ship is on the Hutt planet.
But if you think about it for a little longer than a few seconds, that doesn't make any sense because the gunrunners wouldn't have taken Radha to Nalhutta, right? Like, why is it crashed on this planet? Yeah, why is it here? It shouldn't be here. They would have had to have intercepted it in some other system. And then what, they brought it back here just to crash it into the swamp? Yep. They're acting like they got into a fight over Nalhutta. But why would these gunrunners have brought a Tanul Hutta unless the gunrunners were working for the twins? And if they were working for the twins, then why did their ship crash? Why not just hand him over? I just don't understand why the gunrunner ship is here, unless it's a random other gunrunner ship. Even though we thought they were setting it up with that line earlier, this is one that they didn't set up that just happens to be here. Yeah, I mean, it's true.
And then I wanted to mention the Amani people. I thought it was really cool that they included them because all we've seen really is Aman Aman from Jabba's Palace, which is like, how do these people move around? What do they even look like when they're not really bad puppets? What I was a little disappointed by was they always show them like in the dark, which is annoying because they're like bright yellow and bright green and they're really cool looking. And I wanted to see one kind of in a lighter lit scene. We've also seen them in a unaired but still canon episode of the Clone Wars TV show uh kenobi and anakin run into some amani people and in that one they walk around in tall grass they don't seem to live in water and they don't roll around like droidekas yes so now they do now they're like living amphibious droidekas that's what they are they just like roll up and unfold and start unloading on you i don't know the final thing that i just really really want to dig
into is every single bit of the framing of the new republic in this movie in my opinion this is the movie just falling apart at its seams it makes zero sense like if you think about it what what even happens in this movie we got oh um okay mando he's tracking down imperial officers like that's what he does okay so far so good right oh um wait this guy this random guy who lives on this planet who also had he had like kidnapped this hut and it's forcing him to like fight in the gladiator matches he's an imperial officer he is the imperial get him man you were looking for oh and he's the one that if you got rada you were supposed to get told his name turns out that's the guy it was him all along right what like why and how it doesn't make any sense but okay i mean why why why is the fledgling new republic you know born from a war against tyranny why are they cutting deals with literal crime lords why are they running errands handing over their
you know valuable workers to the huts the huts syndicate why are they i mean they're helping they should at least have intel and i feel like even the like just the littlest amount of intel would have told them that the twins want to kill rada right exactly yeah worst case scenario they just took their word for it they're just like yeah let's believe them they just want to save him and they're stupid right best case scenario they knew that the huts were lying and they were accessory to murder like pick your poison new republic which one is it every single one of these plot holes vanishes if you just take that out and put in boba fett instead if boba fett is here the plot functions organically no new republic required and without the new republic without janu and card everything makes sense yes boba fett would be doing stuff with the huts yes he would be clashing with them. Yes, he'd probably be trying to save Radha from, you know, whatever
plans they had for him and put him back on the throne. All of it makes sense. You don't need the contrivances. Do you have something to say about Radha's voice actor? Oh, I mean, I will say I liked Radha the Hutt. It is canon. You've got the big fat huts and you've got like the super buff huts. I don't know. Those are the two states. You don't have any like slender or slim huts. And it's not genetic because you look at Jabba the Hutt's arms. He's got the tiniest little arms. But you look at Rada's arms. He's got big old arms. That guy's got like long. But like they're longer too. It's like not just the muscles. He's got the reach advantage on Jabba. But no, I love that. Must have come from his mother's side. I don't know if Hutt's have mothers. I love that there's fat Hutt's and there's buff Hutt's and there's nothing in between. And I especially love that they brought back, you know, like,
garfield the depressed angry cat himself to voice rod of the hut and i think he was having the worst monday ever in this movie um no there's a mandalorian i know i want in i want he's literally like garfield like the whole movie what's weird is i saw the a an interview with the voice actor yes jeremy allen white the he's from the bear and he was talking about how he like to get in character he like studied Jabba the Hutt like he watched the movies and he like went through all the scenes with Jabba and all the scenes where he's talking and like studied his voice and then what we got was like I don't want to leave Mando I'm tired it's a bad Monday can I feed him can I feed your little pet I loved it I liked it there was an episode about Radha in the Clone Wars right and it was this basically yeah it's the Clone Wars movie so the movie that started the show so they just copied that movie the plot is about rod of the hut and getting him back to job of the
hut doesn't that feel to you like another situation where you know he's like i need a plot i'll just reuse darth maul's plot what about this one i mean i don't know how many times is rada gonna get kidnapped can't be that common for a single person to get kidnapped multiple times throughout their life it would make so much more sense if this was boba fett if this was like deeply deeply part of his plot of like trying to save Jabba's empire and trying to restore you know the rightful heir and trying to secure his place as you know the number one bounty hunter with you know the highest pay and the best contacts that makes so much more sense to me one other thing I was going to mention about the twins was just that like maybe we talked about how Rada he's kind of like an easter egg a callback right they're bringing back an old character maybe that's what the twins were maybe I'm reading too much into it right like they weren't you know the bad guys from Book of Boba
brought back for the end of their arc this is just an easter egg well it's not an easter egg not the entire skeleton of a plot like they are the villains of this movie they are the goal they are the climax they are the theme they everything revolves around them you don't accidentally build your entire plot around a cameo around an easter egg around the unfinished villain of a different show that doesn't make sense and you definitely don't go and hire that show's staff writer to write it by accident you know what i mean i'm glad it's doing good because then maybe disney won't totally give up on star wars yeah but they will give up on boba fett this is it for him right we will never see boba fett again if they were going to bring him back they've already said that yeah but no listen if they were going to bring him back they would bring him back as a mandalorian side character wouldn't they yeah if he was ever going to come back that's the only context that
he will exist within as long as Disney holds the reins to this franchise and the fact that they have now taken Boba Fett's plot twice but they've taken his latest plot which was his second season they gave it to the Mandalorian and didn't even have Boba Fett show up to say hi that is he's done he's out I did see a commercial for I think it was just like a local theater chain that was advertising the mandalorian and grogu and it shows the mandal somewhat like someone in mandal costume mandalorian and grogu coming to the theater buying popcorn going up the escalator and then you look and going down the escalator is boba fett and they nod to each other dude he's passing the torch that i mean that's even more of a confirmation he's done he's on the way down and mandalorian's on the way up dude i finally figured out what the point was in the robot chicken sketch where it's like you let your smile be an umbrella well my helmet is a big letter t
i forgot the point i forgot the point the point is the letter t looks like an umbrella that's what an umbrella looks like from the side that's what he's saying he's like i don't need a smile my helmet is my smile it's my umbrella whoa dude you've deciphered drunk boba fett i gotta say i mean i love boba fett but the robot chicken boba fett is like the best boba fett like that guy is great at being boba fett i i just want to give everyone who's listening to this episode i want to give you a i want to give you a task i want to give you an important mission you have to do this if you've heard this episode then you have to do this currently disney has one single thing that is boba related that they are actually working on and releasing and that thing is the book of boba fett comic adaptation and i want everyone who hears this everyone who hears the voice coming out of my mouth please go and subscribe to that comic adaptation of the book
of boba fett because we have to show them that people love that'll do well i don't know but i paid for it why would they make a comic out of a hated show i gave them my money i paid for it and i'm gonna read it i guess but um i want everyone to go and do it because boba fett deserves more love than this we have to show disney because disney's so stupid they can't understand the problem is not boba fett his father died boba fett's great and and he's the solution not the problem and everything with his face on it should make money just by virtue of existing as we've said before if the mandalorian is great and you like the mandalorian then boba fett is great because they are one in the same exactly there's no difference it would just be nice if they would give him a little green paint and call him boba fett and tamera morrison has told all fans if you want more Boba Fett everyone should write
Disney yeah like I don't know how or why but everyone should write Disney because Tamera Morrison really wants more money well and we should get it for him because like he's Boba Fett and everyone should do anything for Boba Fett everybody go and subscribe to the book of Boba Fett comic adaptation give them your money yeah because Disney deserves money I don't know in lieu of supporting us on Patreon oh yeah that's true I mean we've been talking for two hours now so i'm sure that there will be a plenty of cut content from this episode and if you love hearing us talk about star wars then we got a patreon if you subscribe to it you can hear double what you just heard if you are searching for us on patreon uh sometimes there are some glitches and we don't show up so go to our website the popcorn isn't real.com and there's a link there that will take you to patreon yay and probably link in the episode
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